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+---
+title: Franz Thoma
+episode: 77
+buzzsproutId: 18725311
+recorded: 2025-10-28
+published: 2026-02-23
+---
+
+Franz Thoma is Principal Consultant at TNG Technology Consulting, and
+an organizer of MuniHac. Franz sees functional programming and Haskell
+as a tool for thinking about software, even if the project is not
+written in Haskell. We had a far-reaching conversation about the
+differences between functional and object-oriented programming and
+their languages, software architecture, and Haskell adoption in
+industry.
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+- [Standard ML](https://smlfamily.github.io/)
+- [David Luposchainsky (quchen)](https://quchen.github.io/)
+- [Learn You a Haskell for Great Good!](https://learnyouahaskell.github.io/)
+- [ZuriHac](https://zfoh.ch/zurihac2026/)
+- [Functor-Applicative-Monad Proposal](https://wiki.haskell.org/Functor-Applicative-Monad_Proposal)
+- [Foldable Traversable In Prelude Proposal](https://wiki.haskell.org/Foldable_Traversable_In_Prelude)
+- [vgrep: A pager for grep](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/vgrep)
+- [Wolfram Alpha](https://www.wolframalpha.com/)
+- [Guava: Google Core Libraries for Java](https://github.com/google/guava)
+- [TypeScript](https://www.typescriptlang.org/)
+- [MuniHac](https://munihac.de/)
+- [React](https://react.dev/)